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I believe it is my duty to get this information out to as many people as I can. Please comment or contact me if you have been affected by this scam.

I have been scammed by an organisation claiming that I placed advertisements in their guide books back in February. I have received numerous phone calls from these organisations alleging that I spoke at length with them about my advertisements.

The company behind these scams is called Adepto Publications with ABN: 33091354522

They are cold calling businesses who placed legitimate advertisements in the Queensland Police Legacy Children's Handbook (QPLCH) at the start of the year. The QPLCH is a legitimate charity and organisation and should not be confused or associated with Adepto Publications in any way.

The first guide book to call me at the start of April was "The Underprivileged Children's Guide" (UCG) who asserted that I had placed an advertisement with them back at the end of January. Thinking that this was somehow linked to the QPLCH I noted that I must have given my authority and they sent a copy of a guide book along with an invoice.

I paid the invoice, totalling $423.50 via direct debit without a second thought, which was for a 1/4 page advertisement. The fact that they actually sent me a copy of the guide book showing my advertisement lead me to believe that I must of authorised this to happen and didn't think any more of it.

Then a couple of weeks later at the end of April I received another phone call from an organisation called "The Volunteer Organisations Guide" (VOG) who again asserted that I had authorised an advertisement in their guide. This was the first time I questioned them and said I was sure I'd just paid something like this and I had no recollection of ever talking to anyone from VOG. They again insisted that I spoke to one of their representatives at length back in February.

VOG sent me an invoice and a copy of their guide book, again showing my advertisement clearly printed. I was very angry and confused at this point but didn't want any debt associated with my name or business so I again paid the invoice, totalling $437.80. This time however I was contacted a couple of times by a VOG representative to make sure payment had been made. I was quite abrupt with them on the phone and told them yes I had paid and to stop calling me and take me off their lists.

I was contacted by a supervisor who informed me that I had now been taken off their calling lists and would not be contacted again. I slept well that night knowing that I wouldn't have to fork out any more payments for advertisements.

It should also be noted that when I pressed these callers for more information they were unable to provide me details of the conversation I had or where they allegedly distribute these guide books.

I have since noticed that at the top of the supposed invoice reads "This is a solicitation not an invoice for a debt incurred by you" and on further investigation I have found out that they are in fact soliciting payments and not requesting that a debt be paid.

I also checked the direct debit banking information I had been given to make the payments. They were both identical bank account details. This made me even more suspicious that something was not right.

This brings me to this week when I had a call from "The Emergency Services Relief Guide" (ESRG) who again told me that I had placed an advertisement with them. This is when something really started to go off in my head and I knew something wasn't right. I am now waiting for their invoice to show in my mail box with a copy of this guide they allege I advertised in. I will report back here about this one later if I do receive anything.

I have since had another call from a supervisor from ESRG and I stopped the lady talking right away. I asked one very simple question. "What is your company's ABN" to which she replied she didn't have that information on hand and would get back to me. Alarm bells were now sounding very loudly in my head, what kind of supervisor does not know the ABN of the company they work for, very strange indeed.

After the ESRG contacted me I decided enough was enough and so I started doing a bit of research. Simply typing "The Underprivileged Children's Guide" into a Google search yielded a lot of results. This blog link in particular shows that many, many people have been caught out by this scam.

I then went into the Cairns District Police Headquarters to lodge a statement. The officer at the front desk was polite but said there wasn't too much they could do until they had more information. He called one of the numbers listed for VOG and they said a director would call him back. He took my details and said he would call me if he heard anything. I will report back here with any information on that investigation also.

When I got home I called the ACCC who knew exactly what I was talking about and said they had been flooded with calls about this very issue. So my advice is that if you have been receiving these scam calls is to contact the ACCC immediately and report the issue. I now have an open file with the ACCC and a case number. They couldn't have been more helpful and sympathised with me.

Shortly afterwards I rang the Queensland Fair Trading Scam hotline who informed me that they too had been flooded with complaints about this scam as well. They told me lodge my complaint online which I did and I received a response a couple of hours later from a representative who said they were well aware of this scam and that my complaint had been received.

I hope this information helps out a few people to avoid being taken on a ride.

UPDATE 26/05/10: Just received a call from the ESRG, after hanging up on them 4 times in a row I then answered and told them they obviously don't get the hint and that I had an open ACCC investigation on them and they'd also been reported to the police. They then hung up.

UPDATE: 29/05/10: I've be liaising with a lady from Grafton, NSW who is looking into what action can be taken against this scummy company. She requested copies of both the VOG and The National Emergency Relief Guide she supposedly advertised in. The copy of the VOG she received was identical to the one I have, however my ad is not in her copy and her ad is not in mine. Surprise, surprise.

She then phone around several of the people in the guides who had all been stung by this multiple times. We're building up quite a good little case to take this further. These guys need to be stopped and we need you to keep reporting them to the ACCC and Fair Trading Offices.

Next step is we're currently in talks with newspapers to get some articles out to the public. The newspapers are very interested in our story and they also suggested we get in contact with ACA and Today Tonight. We're currently investigating this option and gaining some support for what to do next. So if you have been affected by this scam and want to help, get in contact with me by using the Email link on the main menu or leave a comment below.

LINKS:

ACCC ScamWatch Website

QLD Office of Fair Trading Complaint Website

Call the ACCC directly on 1300 302 502

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Simon Ralph  - Scam - Adepto Publications   |144.132.244.xxx |2010-06-11 18:13:45
Do not pay these invoices, it is a scam. I was contacted by Annabelle Simmons from Adepto Publications for an advertisment I allegedly agreed to for the 'National Emergency Reflief Guide. I had not agreed, the advertisment in no way reflected my business' logo or typeface use and I will not be paying the invoice for $425.70. The publication is of very poor quality, the invoice has an ABN, but also has a line 'This is not a bill. You are not requried to pay any money'. They are still asking for it though!
I contacted a number of business' in the guide & they all said the same thing - could not recall agreeing to place an advertisement & then only paid upon being constantly harrassed by the company.
I have reported the company to the Qld Dept of Fair Trading.
Thanks,
Simon
Trish  - We need your help please   |114.73.16.xxx |2010-06-15 03:07:03
If anyone reading this has been scammed, as we have, please we need your help. I am working on this and need:
1. photocopies of your invoice/s for whatever 'publications' you were conned into. Evidence.
2. if you paid by cheque, get your bank to trace them to confirm account/s they were paid into - I need a photocopy of this too. Evidence.
3. if you paid electronically, I need a copy of the details confirming account number money paid into. Evidence.
4. Please send to: T. Jamieson, PO Box 958, Grafton NSW 2460
I need to compile an evidence file which is why we need your assistance & co-operation with this please. I won't expand on exactly what I'm doing but Carl who created this site is fully aware of the action and direction taken.
Sincerely,
Trish
Sherri   |60.231.117.xxx |2010-08-21 17:45:14
I am sure I have been scammed quite a few times by something simmillar. It has cost me thousands. Can I send you all the details of these transactions to follow up for me !! I have started abusing them !!!!!

Sherri
Dana   |60.231.177.xxx |2010-07-11 18:39:32
this is not the company that i got done by, but have a big list of them and dont know where to go with this, it cost me nearly $9000.00, would love some help, cheers Dana
Dana   |60.231.177.xxx |2010-07-11 18:40:07
thanks again
Trish   |122.110.70.xxx |2010-07-14 00:10:47
Hi Dana,
Send me photocopies of your stuff and I will peruse it for you. I know what to look for now and may be able to point you in the right direction, if you're interested.
T. Jamieson
P.O. Box 958
Grafton NSW 2460
Damian Byrne  - thankyou for your post Carlos     |124.186.139.xxx |2010-07-15 02:24:04
Thanks very much for your post, you just saved me paying out more money to these guys. I paid out for the National Emergency Relief Guide and was just about to pay the Volunteer Organisations Guide. I wont be now.
Joy Sorensen  - Mrs   |60.231.136.xxx |2010-07-22 00:49:31
I was away on holidays and when back was informed by National Emergency Relief Guide that one of my employee's had agreed to the advert and it required paying. They also said that they could replay the phone conversation to me of the recording with the employee. I told them that I had not authorised anything and that the employee had no authorisation to do so either. (they are very sneaky the way they word things). They said they would tlak to the supervisors and get back to me. The next day they informed me that due to the circumstances they could reduce the price for me. (how generous of them). I then was able to look at the ad in the booklet and it was in a business name that we were previously known by 2.5yrs ago. I then explained this to them and they said if I was not paying then the employee would have to pay. I told them that she was not paying either. They are getting back to me. But I too decided to investigate further and here I am. Happy to help.....
Trish   |114.72.166.xxx |2010-07-22 02:51:30
Interestingly, this company tends to hit us in the early stages of operating our businesses, while we're still experimenting with our advertising. But it does make me wonder if they, or someone, are 'tracking' new business registrations?
Randy  - Children In Crisis Guide another scam?   |60.241.42.xxx |2010-08-02 20:43:35
Hi,
has anyone had the same problem with another organisation called "Children In Crisis Guide" that goes about their "business" almost identical to the above mentioned scams?
Carl - Carlos Computers   |118.208.120.xxx |2010-08-02 20:52:33
Hi Randy, it's entirely possible that you've come across another one. There are so many of them it's hard to keep count.

What is for certain is that this whole experience now means I do no phone solicitations for products, services or charities any more. It's the only sure way of knowing you're not gonna get ripped off.
Trish   |114.73.137.xxx |2010-08-03 01:42:05
Be wary folks it's now 'fishing season' for the scammers. So far in the past fortnight I've had callers pretending to be Telstra, Sensis, American Express and another one printing beer coasters for "the Ex Servo's Club in town" - we have 2 where I live, he couldn't even name one. So please be very careful and if you get any calls tell them to identify YOU to yourself over the phone. If they're not legit they soon hang up.
joy sorensen   |60.231.116.xxx |2010-08-03 18:25:18
Still have the NERG coordinator calling me in regards to payment, keep telling her I am not paying. when asked her about why it says it is a solicitation not an invoice for payment she then told me that that is why they get the voice recording. I hung up on her twice...... they are so pushy. Maybe I'll tell her that I am taking it up with the ACCC.
Carl - Carlos Computers   |118.208.120.xxx |2010-08-03 18:46:27
Joy, keep hanging up on them. The ACCC are well aware of these scum bags and I would suggest if you haven't done so already to lodge a complaint with the ACCC.

These guys try every trick in the book to keep you on the line, get angry with them, change the subject, waste their time and eventually they'll leave you alone.
Dean Leslie  - Director   |60.240.21.xxx |2010-08-26 01:58:30
I also have been contacted by these sharks and received my apparently approved advertising same as the rest of you, 1/4 page Adepto publications and their header does not even correctly spell the suburb their office is reportedly located in, the shopping centre does not even have them listed, and the ad is not even using my correct contact details or logo for our company. I was quite dirty with the lady when i spoke to her advising that I have not agreed to any adveristing and suprise, surprise, I received a call from a supervisor advising that I was to be removed from all future contacts etc. My solicited account is also for $425.70 which will not be paid. I would like to thank the rest of you for putting your findings on the web as I too would have paid the account worried that an unpaid account would put a black mark against my company for an unpaid debt. I will now contact the ACCC and fair trading as suggested. Dean Leslie
Shane Drew  - Director     |203.45.106.xxx |2010-08-31 00:17:15
Thanks so much for this blog. I've been contacted today by the National Emergency Relief publication too, stating that my advertisment is going to print and that I'll need to pay the account via eft as soon as the account arrives.

They started by ringing and stating that they had rec'd a request to have me removed from their mailing list, and they needed to confirm my details. I realised too late that it was a sneaky way of getting my details to continue the scam. She ended by saying that the $387 1/4 page spread would be in my letterbox by the end of the week, as my personal copy.

I got a call about an hour later telling me that she was a supervisor, and that she was confirming that my name wanted to be removed from the database, and that I understood I would have an invoice for the final advert in the National Emergency Relief publication. I replied that I understood, and before I could say anymore, she advised me that my answer was recorded and thanked me for my business, then said goodbye.

I immediately tried to ring her back to tell her I hadn't ordered any advertising but her number was blocked. I searched for the publication on the net, and found this blog, which confirmed what I was beginning to wonder myself.

I got onto the ACCC as per your links, and they suggested when the bill comes in, to send it back with a letter stating that you have reported them for contravening the trade practices act sections 64 and 52, and that copies of the invoice and further correspondence will be sent to the ACCC also.

The ACCC tell me that they want to hear from anyone caught with this scam, as they are building a database and will probably act once they get sufficient names and claims.
Howard Thrift  - Manager   |211.31.21.xxx |2010-09-05 01:55:59
This sort of scam has been around for over 25 years or more , when I had my buisness on the Gold Coast in the eighties we did place adds in legitimate journals like Surf Lifesavers and one or two others > but soon enough once the legitimate journals came out we received a flood of this type of scam calls from supposed Girl Guides to Police Citizens and Firefighters organizations ,I never new there were so many of these but as usual they all spun convincing stories , but like today they were all scams using the same ploy used today . We quickly realised what was going on never paid any , the unfortunate part is that because of these low lifes legitimate organisations will miss out on support because we cant trust who sends us the information .
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